Images analyzed - Page 3

Psyrgery · 05-04-2009, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Micki!

Speaking of the blood, those pools of blood look awesome, not the jaggy splatter, but the pools in which the bodies lie in, it really looks like a thick fluid mass with that subtle refletion of light added to the edge of it... Best example for the is the pool of blood on upper right on the pigcop image and lower left too...

I'd freak out of awesomeness of that blood actually floats out of the bodies in real time like that... My bet is though, that it's probably just put there for dramatic effect, and that the actual blood splatter probably looks more simple...

My thoughs on this are, the jagged blood are just "decals" to use as decoration. For example, let's just decorate this room to give it a "bloodier" look

The other "cool" blood with shader effects with high resemblance to that in Bioshock, is showed and "spilled" or "sprayed" in real-time.

Just my opinion.

P.S. Just look at the floor in the second Gif of the Assault Trooper, when the camera lowers because of the punch.

You can see the blood splatters reflecting the blue and red light from the cop sirens.

It's hard to see, I don't think it's been placed there on purpose because is barely visible. It's real-time guyz!

JobivanHiob · 05-04-2009, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Psyrgery

I wonder in how far you can interact with the Bus and the police car in the picture. I doen't seem that you can enter them. But you can do damage to them, cause the police car in the back is damaged.

Betelgeuse · 05-04-2009, 07:36 AM

^ it could just be the way model was designed though.

razgriz · 05-04-2009, 07:57 AM

Looks like Vegas or some other major city.

Micki! · 05-04-2009, 08:17 AM

DNF is partly taking place in Vegas, so that's most likely it

Boosh · 05-04-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Psyrgery

There you go

Anybody else think that's the Devastator?

Micki! · 05-04-2009, 12:03 PM

Think ..? it IS..!

peoplessi · 05-04-2009, 01:01 PM

I wonder how much those in-game assets have changed since Jace Hall Show premiered them. I remember 3D Realms saying that it was 6months or older footage, and "a lot has changed since".

Tyler23 · 05-04-2009, 01:26 PM

Yeah i remember that too. George also said the particle effects and the combat fx have been replaced with new hotness.

It can only become better

JobivanHiob · 05-04-2009, 01:27 PM

even better than the footage shown? Must be the best game ever!

Minty · 05-04-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by peoplessi

I wonder how much those in-game assets have changed since Jace Hall Show premiered them. I remember 3D Realms saying that it was 6months or older footage, and "a lot has changed since".

I'm sure the graphics have stayed the same, or they would have to get a new engine, and they say they wont do that again, don't know what to believe, or care much really.

peoplessi · 05-04-2009, 05:05 PM

That part, but I'm speaking of the meshes and other art assetts. At least Duke Nukem himself has had few iterations already since the thumbnails.

Kristian Joensen · 05-04-2009, 05:14 PM

Well, in a sense you might say that. But what George has been talking about then is a matter of tweaking the existing Duke model. Not remaking it from scratch.

peoplessi · 05-04-2009, 05:32 PM

We know this how?

Echo Black · 05-04-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JobivanHiob

I wonder in how far you can interact with the Bus and the police car in the picture. I doen't seem that you can enter them. But you can do damage to them, cause the police car in the back is damaged.

That doesn't really tell us anything...The damaged car could be a prop obstacle like you see in dozens of other FPSs out there.

Da_Lurker · 05-04-2009, 09:18 PM

If you look at the pig armor carefully.....it looks like it's removible.

Maybe you have to destroy the armor before reaching the main body

Yeah, I know, that was said before. But what thing of DNF wasnt already said before?

razgriz · 05-04-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JobivanHiob

even better than the footage shown? Must be the best game ever!

I hope so.

Just don't mess up the environment from 2001.

Malgon · 05-04-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelo86

I see what appears to be a zoom feature listed. Will this be for scopes (which iirc, there won't be any sniping style weapons, unless 3DR has changed their minds on the matter) or will it be used for something else? What do you guys reckon?

Kit · 05-04-2009, 09:51 PM

Probably the same as the Half Life/Doom 3 zoom, which is used for scanning your surroundings.

I'm actually really interested to see how they do holoduke in 3D. Closest thing I’ve seen since Duke 3D is the distraction mags in Metal Gear.

DerricktheW · 05-05-2009, 12:11 AM

I expect a Duke model just standing there, maybe moving a little bit, but when shot, whatever gets hit reacts with a ripple that goes throughout the body.

Think of it as shooting water. Would look kinda cool IMO

Malgon · 05-05-2009, 12:51 AM

^That would look pretty cool.

Mr. Milton · 05-05-2009, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Micki!

The worm is by far my favorite of these naimations... Looks wild and uncontrollable...

It looks like it's sneezing... fire!

Nihilanth · 05-05-2009, 01:33 AM

This thread is both cool and sad. It's great to see so many details found in those vids. But a second later I realize that we're talking about a 1,5 year old stuff (for both, teaser is Dec 07, JH footage was 6 months old when released around June 08). I mean seriously, 1,5 year and nothing.

Psyrgery · 05-05-2009, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nihilanth

This thread is both cool and sad. It's great to see so many details found in those vids. But a second later I realize that we're talking about a 1,5 year old stuff (for both, teaser is Dec 07, JH footage was 6 months old when released around June 08). I mean seriously, 1,5 year and nothing.

Yes, I think we can all thank 3DR for that, we can thank George and Scott for having learned of their mistakes

Remember, Stay tuned!

Nihilanth · 05-05-2009, 02:46 AM

I'm not sure if you're sarcastic or not.

Psyrgery · 05-05-2009, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Nihilanth

I'm not sure if you're sarcastic or not.

IwantMORE · 05-12-2009, 04:05 AM

Not sure if this is allowed under the new rules, but here goes.

Just before then news broke there was a thread about all the DNF images so far...

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=35480

This got locked within the DNF folder, but as there are so many more images floating around now.

Thought it would be good to try and restart a thread ONLY ABOUT THE PICTURES!!!!

SpinX · 05-12-2009, 05:36 AM

they look pretty decent, but since a few years I have the opinion that screenshots can't show the graphics as moving images do...

There are so many post processing effects that have to be seen in action... It looks very good... I hope we can play it before the end of the year...

TG01 · 05-12-2009, 11:53 AM

For a game that is supposedly 90% finished there are awfully few screenshots leaked..
If the whole dev team was fired after 12 years you'd expect a flooding of screenshots.. but no.

I'm calling a hoax.. be it either the end of 3DRealms or of the 'almost complete' development of DNF.

Psyrgery · 05-12-2009, 01:28 PM

Here, I've copied my post from Duke4.net's forums

Didn't no one notice the the dates of the file?

Take a look at this:

I know it's in Spanish, but below are the translations:

Organization: 3D Realms
Creation date: 09/03/07 0:28
Last modification date: 29/07/08 23:04(Marked in red)
Last printed: 29/07/08 22:50

By that time, the supposed percentage of the game levels was about 60,8%

I've been playing with these dates on Excel, and found out this:

If I'm right, the last day developers were able to work on the game was on 05/05/09 (The previous day before 3DR closed down). If the dates in that file are correct and if we take them as reference (From the first day it was created, until the last day it was modified), in 508 days a 60,8% of the game had been developed. That is an approximate average of 0,119% from the total of the game levels creation per day.

It's been 280 days since the last update of that file on 29/07/08. If we follow the approximate level creation average per day, we'd obtain that an aproximate 30%~35% of the total of the game levels have been created by the day 3DR closed.

That is, ladies and gentlemen, the state of the levels was about 90%~95% finished the day 3DR shut down!!!

I can't believe they left the game when there was only 5%~10% of content left.

Your opinions are welcome

Bad Sector · 05-12-2009, 02:44 PM

This is a linear calculation, however if we add crunch time in the equation where people work more hours at the end of a project so they will produce a bit more, we can assume that the game has reached if not 100% (completed) then at least something above at least 98%.

EDIT: i recalculated assuming the last three months they did a 55h/week cycle with the last 15 days a 75h/week cycle:

Code:

a=60.8/508
b=a*(55.0/40.0)
c=a*(75.0/40.0)
p=698*a + 75*b + 15*c

p is 99.24%

Ok, assuming your calculations are correct (since i based mine on yours) and getting the above with a little grain of salt, then they're extremely close to completion now. If not finished.

robotman5 · 05-12-2009, 03:34 PM

the pictures look neat

johndough · 05-12-2009, 04:01 PM

Why can't we just talk about the images instead of turning this thread into another release date/conspiracy thread (getting it locked)?

TG01 · 05-12-2009, 04:08 PM

This is not a conspiracy thread.. this is the great Hoax thread..

Anyway ,the dates on those files are a bit 'strange' to say the least..

Duke's New Chainsaw · 05-12-2009, 09:24 PM

Nothing strange about them at all.

It's seems like 3DR got their act together and were planning to release this in about a year.

Ironically, close to the finish line they tripped and broke their neck.

IwantMORE · 05-13-2009, 06:45 AM

I must say some of the images show attention to detail that I have expected from such a long development period.

Angelo86 · 06-24-2009, 06:50 PM

here all the pictures

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4804/87478802.png
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5417/31241748.png
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9871/35945695.png
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7259/23434010.png
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3568/48694956.png
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4521/61243730.png
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4472/61629572.png
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3428/78876804.png
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/696/36333297.png
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2072/71900983.png
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5619/15643729.png
http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/9840/62973332.png
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1085/20077865.png
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4308/84468667.png

WoodenSword · 06-25-2009, 06:03 AM

oh dear, you are not helping us Angelo.

Its like teasing an alcoholic with a bottle of a fine whiskey

crunchy superman · 06-25-2009, 06:30 AM

Yeah, that just makes me mad again.

Angelo86 · 06-25-2009, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoodenSword

oh dear, you are not helping us Angelo.

Its like teasing an alcoholic with a bottle of a fine whiskey

Duke nukem forever still in development :-)

05-04-2009, 07:36 AM	#83
Betelgeuse	Re: Images analized ^ it could just be the way model was designed though. __________________ #include <iostream> using namespace std; int main() { cout << " my mum says im cool... "; return 13; }

05-04-2009, 07:57 AM	#84
razgriz	Re: Images analized Looks like Vegas or some other major city. __________________ razgriz's MySpace

05-04-2009, 08:17 AM	#85
Micki!	Re: Images analized DNF is partly taking place in Vegas, so that's most likely it __________________ A true genius does not need boundaries such as 'common sense'

05-04-2009, 12:03 PM	#87
Micki!	Re: Images analized Think ..? it IS..! __________________ A true genius does not need boundaries such as 'common sense'

05-04-2009, 01:01 PM	#88
peoplessi	Re: Images analized I wonder how much those in-game assets have changed since Jace Hall Show premiered them. I remember 3D Realms saying that it was 6months or older footage, and "a lot has changed since". __________________ Duke Nukem Forever Who am I to judge?

05-04-2009, 01:26 PM	#89
Tyler23	Re: Images analized Yeah i remember that too. George also said the particle effects and the combat fx have been replaced with new hotness. It can only become better

05-04-2009, 01:27 PM	#90
JobivanHiob	Re: Images analized even better than the footage shown? Must be the best game ever! __________________ Stay up to date with http://dukewatch.blogspot.com for the UNEXPECTED and PREPARE YOURSELF for SHOCK and AWESOME on Penny Arcade EXPO from September 3-5! Onebullit: "If DNF comes out in 2010 i will buy 2 copies and send you one." pjVgt regading DNF at PAX:"I would seriously shit my pants and pre-order three copies - one will be sent to Jobi"

05-04-2009, 05:05 PM	#92
peoplessi	Re: Images analized That part, but I'm speaking of the meshes and other art assetts. At least Duke Nukem himself has had few iterations already since the thumbnails. __________________ Duke Nukem Forever Who am I to judge?

05-04-2009, 05:14 PM	#93
Kristian Joensen	Re: Images analized Well, in a sense you might say that. But what George has been talking about then is a matter of tweaking the existing Duke model. Not remaking it from scratch. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

05-04-2009, 05:32 PM	#94
peoplessi	Re: Images analized We know this how? __________________ Duke Nukem Forever Who am I to judge?

05-04-2009, 09:18 PM	#96
Da_Lurker	Re: Images analized If you look at the pig armor carefully.....it looks like it's removible. Maybe you have to destroy the armor before reaching the main body Yeah, I know, that was said before. But what thing of DNF wasnt already said before? __________________ Always bet on Duke Let's rock! Stay Tuned. Coming WID.

05-04-2009, 09:51 PM	#99
Kit	Re: Images analized Probably the same as the Half Life/Doom 3 zoom, which is used for scanning your surroundings. I'm actually really interested to see how they do holoduke in 3D. Closest thing I’ve seen since Duke 3D is the distraction mags in Metal Gear.

05-05-2009, 12:11 AM	#100
DerricktheW	Re: Images analized I expect a Duke model just standing there, maybe moving a little bit, but when shot, whatever gets hit reacts with a ripple that goes throughout the body. Think of it as shooting water. Would look kinda cool IMO

05-05-2009, 12:51 AM	#101
Malgon	Re: Images analized ^That would look pretty cool. __________________ -Most wanted games: Doom 4, Tomb Raider, Beyond Good and Evil 2

05-05-2009, 01:33 AM	#103
Nihilanth	Re: Images analized This thread is both cool and sad. It's great to see so many details found in those vids. But a second later I realize that we're talking about a 1,5 year old stuff (for both, teaser is Dec 07, JH footage was 6 months old when released around June 08). I mean seriously, 1,5 year and nothing. __________________ We were standing on the edge of discovery 2014: The Vanishing of Ethan Carter 2015: SOMA

05-05-2009, 02:46 AM	#105
Nihilanth	Re: Images analized I'm not sure if you're sarcastic or not. __________________ We were standing on the edge of discovery 2014: The Vanishing of Ethan Carter 2015: SOMA

05-12-2009, 04:05 AM	#107
IwantMORE	Lets discuss the images Not sure if this is allowed under the new rules, but here goes. Just before then news broke there was a thread about all the DNF images so far... http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=35480 This got locked within the DNF folder, but as there are so many more images floating around now. Thought it would be good to try and restart a thread ONLY ABOUT THE PICTURES!!!! __________________ Signature removed to protect the guilty

05-12-2009, 05:36 AM	#108
SpinX	Re: Lets discuss the images they look pretty decent, but since a few years I have the opinion that screenshots can't show the graphics as moving images do... There are so many post processing effects that have to be seen in action... It looks very good... I hope we can play it before the end of the year... __________________ waiting for: Elite sequel, Half life 3, Diablo3, DNF Enough is enough! I've had it with these motherxxxxxx delays on this motherxxxxxx game :) http://www.youtube.com/user/ftbfelix

05-12-2009, 11:53 AM	#109
TG01	Re: Lets discuss the images For a game that is supposedly 90% finished there are awfully few screenshots leaked.. If the whole dev team was fired after 12 years you'd expect a flooding of screenshots.. but no. I'm calling a hoax.. be it either the end of 3DRealms or of the 'almost complete' development of DNF.

05-12-2009, 01:28 PM	#110
Psyrgery	Re: Lets discuss the images Here, I've copied my post from Duke4.net's forums Didn't no one notice the the dates of the file? Take a look at this: I know it's in Spanish, but below are the translations: Organization: 3D Realms Creation date: 09/03/07 0:28 Last modification date: 29/07/08 23:04(Marked in red) Last printed: 29/07/08 22:50 By that time, the supposed percentage of the game levels was about 60,8% I've been playing with these dates on Excel, and found out this: If I'm right, the last day developers were able to work on the game was on 05/05/09 (The previous day before 3DR closed down). If the dates in that file are correct and if we take them as reference (From the first day it was created, until the last day it was modified), in 508 days a 60,8% of the game had been developed. That is an approximate average of 0,119% from the total of the game levels creation per day. It's been 280 days since the last update of that file on 29/07/08. If we follow the approximate level creation average per day, we'd obtain that an aproximate 30%~35% of the total of the game levels have been created by the day 3DR closed. That is, ladies and gentlemen, the state of the levels was about 90%~95% finished the day 3DR shut down!!! I can't believe they left the game when there was only 5%~10% of content left. Your opinions are welcome __________________ George Broussard: Two facts: We haven't said anything. This forum is still open.

05-12-2009, 02:44 PM	#111
Bad Sector	Re: Lets discuss the images This is a linear calculation, however if we add crunch time in the equation where people work more hours at the end of a project so they will produce a bit more, we can assume that the game has reached if not 100% (completed) then at least something above at least 98%. EDIT: i recalculated assuming the last three months they did a 55h/week cycle with the last 15 days a 75h/week cycle: Code: a=60.8/508 b=a(55.0/40.0) c=a(75.0/40.0) p=698a + 75b + 15c p is 99.24% Ok, assuming your calculations are correct (since i based mine on yours) and getting the above with a little grain of salt, then they're extremely close to completion now. If not finished. Last edited by Bad Sector; 05-12-2009 at 03:07 PM.*

05-12-2009, 03:34 PM	#112
robotman5	Re: Lets discuss the images the pictures look neat

05-12-2009, 04:01 PM	#113
johndough	Re: Lets discuss the images Why can't we just talk about the images instead of turning this thread into another release date/conspiracy thread (getting it locked)?

05-12-2009, 04:08 PM	#114
TG01	Re: Lets discuss the images This is not a conspiracy thread.. this is the great Hoax thread.. Anyway ,the dates on those files are a bit 'strange' to say the least..

05-12-2009, 09:24 PM	#115
Duke's New Chainsaw	Re: Lets discuss the images Nothing strange about them at all. It's seems like 3DR got their act together and were planning to release this in about a year. Ironically, close to the finish line they tripped and broke their neck. __________________ The Great Communicator!

05-13-2009, 06:45 AM	#116
IwantMORE	Re: Lets discuss the images I must say some of the images show attention to detail that I have expected from such a long development period. __________________ Signature removed to protect the guilty

06-24-2009, 06:50 PM	#117
Angelo86	Re: Images analized here all the pictures http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4804/87478802.png http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5417/31241748.png http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9871/35945695.png http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7259/23434010.png http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3568/48694956.png http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/4521/61243730.png http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4472/61629572.png http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3428/78876804.png http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/696/36333297.png http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2072/71900983.png http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5619/15643729.png http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/9840/62973332.png http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/1085/20077865.png http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4308/84468667.png __________________ Jesus 4ever † Duke Nukem Facebook

06-25-2009, 06:03 AM	#118
WoodenSword	Re: Images analized oh dear, you are not helping us Angelo. Its like teasing an alcoholic with a bottle of a fine whiskey __________________ ------------------------------ When the chess game is over, the pawn and the king go back to the same box

06-25-2009, 06:30 AM	#119
crunchy superman	Re: Images analized Yeah, that just makes me mad again. __________________