Rumor: Gearbox Reviving Duke Nukem Forever

[delta2kbr]

Originally Posted by Detharin

As long as the thread is open we can rampantly speculate. I might as well jump on board.

What do we know? We know the lawsuit was dropped. We know DNF is not canceled. We know the team was let go. All of this points to the fact that something, somewhere is going on to further game development.

Does that mean Gearbox is finishing the game? Perhaps. Does that mean someone else might be finishing it? Also perhaps.

What I find interesting is that after all this time IF it is being finished it is likely being done with limited input from the 3DRealms people who struggled to get it this far. Was DNF done enough that another team can fill in the gaps sufficiently without losing out on the Duke feel?

At the end of the day however Duke Nukem Forever may create the birth of a new term. What exactly do we call vaporware that pulls itself back together, gets released, and rocks?

Gaming Messiah?

[JobivanHiob]

[SpinX]

when is the penny arcade expo?

EDIT: Ok, I used google 3-5 september

[digimonkey]

Honestly we could get news before PAX. Randy Pitchford said they just may be able to clarify the situation there. So a news release by Scott Miller or something could take precedence.

[Lutzifer]

might be the other PAX next year still (there are two each year), if there is even a grain of truth to it.

BUT, i m ALWAYS betting on duke!

[KareBear]

Jon St. John will all be at PAX this year.

[JobivanHiob]

the plot thickens!

[Rösti]

Interesting news indeed. It's even on trade sites like MCV, and they don't report on hokey-pokey stuff. What is even more interesting (if this is not completely bogus, of course) is:

"Gearbox Software president Randy Pitchford declined to comment to Kotaku on the matter, indicating that he may be able to better clarify the situation further at this year's Penny Arcade Expo in Seattle."

Now, to even suggest something as clarification of the situation clearly points to some involvement. Whether or not it is about Duke Nukem Forever or Duke Begins or something completely different (acquisition of 3D Realms for example) can be discussed.

To have George not comment on the situation was expected, but it starting to get a bit weird. George is to the gaming industry what Area 51 is to USA. Anyhow, I'm glad for these news, they were very much needed.

[Kristian Joensen]

Derek Smart commented on the Bluesnews article about this like so:

"Its true"

[ryche]

Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

Derek Smart commented on the Bluesnews article about this like so:

"Its true"

Who?..

[Rösti]

Originally Posted by ryche

Who?..

http://www.dereksmart.org/

[Kristian Joensen]

Originally Posted by ryche

Who?..

A highly controversial game designer known for some internet flamewars like 10 years ago or so. Including accusations of a faked PhD. He has posted on Scott's blog before for example. In other words it is an industry insider that says it is true.

[crunchy superman]

Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

Derek Smart commented on the Bluesnews article about this like so:

"Its true"

Hmmm. Doesn't really lend much credibility to this rumor.

[KaiserSoze]

Gearbox has been my top choice for finishing the game for a long time now. Glad to see it's pretty much confirmed. I'm especially glad that a lot of former 3dr guys are still at Gearbox and are now getting to finish what they started.

Bring it on!

[Kristian Joensen]

AFAIK Derek Smart has been fairly reliable as an industry insider perhaps as opposed when talking about himself. I don't know.

Edit:

A lot? AFAIK they are what? 5 guys?

Edit2:

I count 6 guys here: http://www.gearboxity.com/component/...ent/Itemid,45/

[KaiserSoze]

Originally Posted by crunchy superman

Hmmm. Doesn't really lend much credibility to this rumor.

No matter what you think of Smart, I'm sure he's connected in the industry. I'd tend to think he's not bullshitting.

What many people are missing about the Kotaku blurb is that Take 2 said that they will still distribute the game. That's the first comment they've made since the end of the lawsuit and basically confirms the game is indeed alive(if all 3 of you out there thought it was still dead).

---------- Post added at 11:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:24 AM ----------

Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

AFAIK Derek Smart has been fairly reliable as an industry insider perhaps as opposed when talking about himself. I don't know.

Edit:

A lot? AFAIK they are what? 5 guys?

Edit2:

I count 6 guys here: http://www.gearboxity.com/component/...ent/Itemid,45/

Kristian, can you give us a quick run down of Gearbox employees who worked at 3dr? Thanks.

[Valdsator]

Originally Posted by JobivanHiob

here I am...Seems that I wasn't that far off

SHOCK AND AWE in early September!

Jizzing pants big time here we come!

Well, the fact that you speculated Duke is back practically every month, it's not surprising that you eventually predicted "correctly."

This is becoming really interesting.

[Kristian Joensen]

Keith Schuler former DNF Lead Level Designer(Worked on a few games for Apogee before becoming an employee then a Level Designer on DNF from 1997 to 2006), Richard Huenink(Late 2006 or so until layoffs in May 2009) former DNF Lead Designer, John Anderson(3DR Level Designer 1997-2009, first on Prey then from 1998 on DNF), Brian Cozzen former 3DR artist(from about 1998 to 2006), Stephen Cole former DNF level designer(Hired in 1997 for Shadow Warrior then on DNF until he left for Gearbox in early 2007). Ruben Cabrera former DNF Art Director(At 3DR from about 1997/1998 until Late 2006. Worked a couple of months as Designer when T. Ray Isaac took over as Art Director then left for Gearbox where he is a Designer).

[Damien_Azreal]

Who about... we just wait until PAX. Speculating and getting all excited seems rather pointless until some solid facts emerge.

[crunchy superman]

Originally Posted by KaiserSoze

No matter what you think of Smart, I'm sure he's connected in the industry. I'd tend to think he's not bullshitting.

You're probably right. The brain says this is all bs, but my gut tells me it's probably on the level. This time frame fits, being near their last chance to salvage what they had and not miss their obsolescence window.

I'm actually looking forward to release more for the possibility of an honest development postmortem than I am for playing the game.

[JobivanHiob]

6 guys is enough to bring the 3DR DNF spirit to Gearbox!

[Psyrgery]

My self-control is on the edge right now.

I'll wait until PAX, but I am not betting anything at all. I'm counting on it not happening.

Better be careful with this, so the shock will be bigger (if it gets to happen, that is)

[WarThrash]

Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

Who about... we just wait until PAX. Speculating and getting all excited seems rather pointless until some solid facts emerge.

At least this speculation has a source to draw from. I'd say it's fine. The DNF section is getting less and less active anyways so what can it hurt? We haven't gotten much else to talk about. At least we aren't pulling this stuff out of the blue, and there's a couple of sites to back the speculation.

Definitely not saying that I think all this is true, because given DNF's track record, I wouldn't be surprised if it is just a false rumor, but this certainly is bigger than anything we've seen since the court case went out.

[Deimos]

This is interesting. Gearbox are good people, so let's hope this all plays out.
*cracks knuckles*

[Derwin]

This may very well end up being the first commercial release with a credits roll longer than the actual gameplay itself.

[predl]

Originally Posted by Derwin

This may very well end up being the first commercial release with a credits roll longer than the actual gameplay itself.

ROFL! Post of the day!!

[cof_3pc]

*cracks knuckles* "What are you waiting for? Gearbox?"

[DI-MeisterM]

Can't believe what I'm doing here. Hope the news is kinda true :P

[Montykoro!]

Some input:

JSJakaDukeNukem
has no news yet about Duke Nukem Forever, so please don't ask me. As soon as I know anything, I'll be all over twitter with it. Promise!!!!!

http://twitter.com/JSJakaDukeNukem

[Kristian Joensen]

That is old. Before this Kotaku post appeared.

[French]

It must be true, why would he say to wait for PAX otherwise ?

[glade23]

not to be a humbug, but could this lead to how can one put it (though i love duke) E3 big disppointment = PAX rumor?

[Damien_Azreal]

Honestly, as far as Gearbox goes... I'd rather see them spend the time working on their own titles.

[glade23]

Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

Honestly, as far as Gearbox goes... I'd rather see them spend the time working on their own titles.

like aliens: colonial marines?

[Damien_Azreal]

Yes.
Or a new Brothers in Arms game (which Randy has hinted at briefly at parties) or Borderlands 2.

[Youngerthanold]

Great news indeed!



to Damien: are you crazy? well, duke has been the epitome of gaming for as long as I can remember...waiting 13 years for a new experience, and this could finally be it! those were all good games, I must coincide with you on that matter, but to want them more than THE Duke Nukem Forever...why, in my mind, that is purely blasphemy!

I've been to the point since like 2002 that I have not been truly excited by a new release unless it was involving Duke. kinda sad really, but he is gaming for me...that, and most recently Deadly Premonition...:P

Hail to the king baby...right Zach?

[nebiatsu]

IF true, good news.
I am also not very sure about the developers.
They havent put out anything resembling Duke, comedy wise, interactive wise, or really unreality wise.
I can only concur with a previous poster about IF they are actually completing it, I hope it was 95% done already.

[mr.smith]

i will not jump on the wagon just yet.

i will wait till i hear it from George or Scott.

all i want to see on this site is:



"IT'S DONE"






Nothing More.

[Kristian Joensen]

Sorry but nobody is going to release a game without a several month (at least) pre-release hype period.

Edit:

Personally I would take DNF over just about any game imaginable. But I don't think this(if true) will have any impact on any other Gearbox game other than maybe Duke Begins.

[Youngerthanold]

Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

Sorry but nobody is going to release a game without a several month (at least) pre-release hype period.

hmm...is it just me...or has the past 13 years been a pre-release hype period? :P

I think they know they need to get the game out before a duke fan snaps and goes postal.

It's time to shine Nukem!

[EDIT] Oh, and by the way, I would DEF trade any game for DNF...even if it was just the betas! Immagine the history?